There are NO high heel options for men!

This is an outrage, STOP forcing men to wear shoes without heels.

And tinsel. There is NO tinsel or pearl necklace option for men OR women in the NEX.

CCP DISCRIMINATE AGAINST LADYBOYS!

This matriachic insanity must NOT continue. Why do only women get pony tails and breasts?!

There's an 'ism' here just waiting to be thrown around.

Give me panties not briefs!

GAH!

Oh look, another one of those threads that takes space on the first page promoting some useless cowdung while legitimate ideas get overlooked. Hooray for forums!

One woman's misogyny is another woman's humour. Just because you've recently discovered that shouting "racist", "sexist", "ageist", "misogynist" etc will get you somewhere in today's overly touchy-feely society doesn't mean you'll get what you want just by screaming it on the EvE forums. You need to back up your claim and arguably have people agree with you before anyone from CCP will even bother looking at your demands. Misogyny requires an intent, not a misinterpretation (intentional or otherwise). Basically, whether it is actually misogynistic comes down to whether the person who said it intended it to be so, not whether you've misinterpreted a comment meant to be mildly amusing as intentionally offensive. One more thing; I was under the impression misogyny was entirely in the male domain, no?

Not all women see eye to eye with you on this one. Some view additional development time on WIS before they have any form of interaction between avatars as a complete waste of time. No one sees your shoes on a portrait, for example.

As for transphobia, get off your high horse. Just because someone doesn't agree with you you can't just accuse them of hate crimes. I have an american who works with me who pokes fun at me because of my nationality amongst other things. Should I make an official complaint about him being a racist or accept it because it's meant to be a joke? If you answer the former I pity you, I really do.

One last thing: If WIS was so important for the game (I'm ignoring gender here) why did CCP all but stop development on it?

A constructive reply: The change you want probably won't happen soon.

The problem is that realistic collision detection is exponentially complex, with the exponent roughly corresponding to the number of different heights that the engine has to take into account. This is why, at present, all capsuleers are the exact same height, about 5'8"--men in flats, women in heels. Give women the option to drop to 5'5" or so in flats, and you've just made it harder. Making flats the default shoe for women is even more work, because all the models are designed to be 5'8" in heels. CCP would have to find some way to add a few inches of height to every female toon without making any of them look absurd. Not to mention that they'd have to have two default female poses, since heels change the way that you stand and walk.

I support the feature. Just be aware that implementing it has complications, and CCP will have to engineer around them. It's not as simple as adding flats to the character customization options.

Why wouldn't a "thin" model look underweight?

Just as a "fat" model would look overweight, it makes sense.

Lol. And you're a programmer are you?

Who said anything about anorexia? Just because a person's thin it doesn't necessarily mean they're anorexic.


If that's true I apologise and retract my sarcastic comment.


Having thick skin generally doesn't come from living a privileged lifestyle. When you get stood on so many times you have two choices. 1) to become bitter and always assume people are trying to attack you or 2) toughen up and see things in a positive light until proven wrong. I chose the latter. It's not the easier of the two. I am genuinely sorry if your life experiences have led you to the former.

If there was any avatar interaction and you posed it as a well thought out, calm proposal I would have got behind you 100% but you didn't. You posted a pissed off rant demanding that CCP change something because it offends you. Well, you offend me so I DEMAND that you change until you don't.

jeez stop this fuggin thread about bullsh*t already.
cmon. highheels for female avatars? SO FUC*ING WHAT? WHO CARES?

What?! Are your virtual shoes hurting your virtual feet? If I log in and start seeing men weatring heals, bras, and panties I'm leaving the game. Here's a clue for you, bras are uncomfortable too - that doesn't mean I want them removed from the game or worse.. added to the male wardrobe..

No.

I did not say it was lacking importance to you. You are free to care about anything, regardless of it's significance.

But before you expect ANY of us to share your view, you do need to convince us. I would hardly expect devs to be easier to sway than your fellow players.

For the reasons I stated before, you have not made your case to me.

Considering the plain nature of the logic here, I don't see or expect anyone else to seriously agree with you either.

Why? Do you think it will serve any purpose to call further attention to this thread? You're asking for the female model to be modified and all its footwear be redesigned. That's a significant amount of artwork for a feature that is currently essentially single player. Regardless of how offensive a few players find it, it's a tremendous waste of time when you consider they might spend it working on in-space content where actual gameplay happens.

Lose the chip on your shoulder and raise this issue as a lack of options when CCP starts talking about expanding walk in station. You'll have a chance at actually getting results doing it that. way.

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Feminism "died" when women admitted that they enjoyed sex too and did equally outrageous things to get laid.

In our day and age you can be accused of "misogyny" for stating that men should have equal rights when it comes to family planning.